Talk:H-Plates

From doktorsleepless

Taking the numbers on the plates as triplets of 2 digit integers, the first two H plates have zero followed by two prime numbers.

I ran a few combinations of the numbers through the online encyclopedia of integer sequences, but nothing interesting turned up.

I wish I wasn't such a nerd --Slurkid 16:39, 9 September 2007 (PDT)

Are you kidding? I've been spending my free time scrubbing the Warning Signs in notepad for hidden messages. That's an old Jedi mind trick I picked up during the ilovebees fiasco of 2004. --ViolentVirtue 19:06, 9 September 2007 (PDT)

...The what? That sounds very intriguing. --Murphix 06:04, 10 September 2007 (PDT)

Ilovebees was an Alternate Reality Game (or ARG) that was used to promote Halo 2 back in '04. You can read the wiki about it here [1], but basically www.ilovebees.com was this website supposedly run by the niece of this woman who sold home-grown honey. The website became corrupted with odd photos and such that over time people realized contained clues to this massive story created by the makers of Halo. Anyway, one of the things people realized was that if you took the photos found on the site and dumped the code into wordpad, there were bits of text hidden within.

The whole thing was just ridiculous in the scale of its implementation, and cumulated with, I shit you not, thousands of nerds using GPS locators to track coordinates that were found hidden on the site. There was also a countdown, and if you were at a payphone near any of the GPS coordinates when this countdown ran out, the payphone rang and an automated voice asked you a series of questions. The correct answers led to yet more clues, and so forth. I mean, just incredible amounts of manpower, time and energy were dedicated to this.

So yeah, now anytime I'm looking for anything hidden on a website, Wordpad is the first thing I open. Haven't found anything here yet, though, so I don't know where this community portal is. I kind of wondered if it actually existed before somebody went and added "Look harder" to its page yesterday. Now I know it's here somewhere, I just have no idea what I'm looking for.

Curse your taunting, Internet Jesus. --ViolentVirtue 07:27, 10 September 2007 (PDT)

hahahaha --Warren Ellis 08:21, 10 September 2007 (PDT)

I'm pretty sure the numbers are coordinates. At first I thought it was a standard grid system (like long. lat.) with elevation. But I think one of the images looked like it was second floor. Any ideas? --Rcapra 11:08, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

If the plate numbers were coordinates, it would look like this.

--Grim 18:21, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

-- maybe's it only 'cause I've just been reading Spook Country, but i keep thinking maybe these numbers are tied into a similarly styled 'locative art'.. you stand in front of the sign, enter those numbers into some hidden diagnostic mode in Clatter and get a sweet wireframe overlay.. maybe the good Doktor's got stashes hidden all over the city, and these are the notes to himself on how to find them?! --M1k3y 21:15, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

-- They do seem to be coordinates. The number sequences all start with: 00, would that be Heavenside? Are they satellite coordinates (The Darkening Sky)? Is he watching certain areas from satellites? Are they locations of people, places or things? --Kim 06:12, 13 September 2007 (PDT) (aka: celidhesmasque)

I think it's really interesting to note that "Transhumanism" is often sybolized with an "H". Food for Thought...

--ravnos 13:33, 13 September 2007 (PDT)

All the numbers, when entered into an excel spreadsheet using respective columns and rows, produces this graph:

"Surface" was the chosen chart option. Nice mountains.

-edited to make the blasted chart appear

--Spiraltwist 15:09, 27 November 2007 (PST)

I ran the non double-zeroes through the periodic table, syncing up numbers to letters to see if there was any correlation but all I got was giberish.

Near as I can tell they aren't coding for genetic basepairs (AT GC) so at least biologically and chemically speaking they don't mean anything. --Stin 21:33, 27 November 2007 (PST)

I tried converting from decimal to hexidecimal and from decimal to hexi, but I didn't find anything interesting... if someone is better with numbers than I am you might want to give this a go. I just figured H may stand for hexidecimal.--Filthmammoth 15:49, 17 December 2007 (PST)

Plan 2 for me was my old standard, "when all else fails.... GOOGLE". When the H numbers are googled in the format H##-##-## quite a few of them throw up free patents online [2]. So, for your viewing pleasure here is what I found:

H000513- ECM preprocessor or tracker using multi-processor modules [3]

H000789-Method for processing a silver halide photographic material [4]

H000234- Energetic derivatives of a novel diol and methods for their syntheses[5]

H000006-Generation of a modulated IREB with a frequency tunable by a magnetic field [6]

H008803- Does not exist

H000042- Silver halide color photographic material[7]

H000152- Radioactive waste disposal package[8]

H007523- Does not exist

H002638- Does not exist

H007701- Does not exist

Photographic materials, explosives, radioactive waste disposal and electronic signal jamming stuff... all very interesting, but i believe the fact that at least 4 of the patent numbers don't exist hurts my theory quite a lot. However, maybe they are patents that have been filed, just not yet.

Considering Doktor Sleepless is a mad scientist he may even file some himself.--Filthmammoth 16:21, 17 December 2007 (PST)

--I'm not so sure I like that as a theory, why put patent numbers up around a city on plates? I mean, sure, it would be an interesting choice for the sheer information it provokes people to find, but it doesn't seem to make a lot of -sense- to me.

I'm still waiting to see anything more from the street, the last issue was devoid of big street scenes we've previously enjoyed. --Confusion 19:59, 17 December 2007 (PST)

I looked closer at the plates in the issue, and not all of them are rectangles. Some appear to be squares, and of various sizes. --Spiraltwist 21:25, 18 December 2007 (PST)

On the cover to issue #5 appears the H-plate 00-00-05. This is the first plate that results in two consectutive plate numbers (00-00-06 being the other one). I'll have to redo the graph with the new numbers in it. --Spiraltwist 07:14, 2 January 2008 (PST) --edited due to spelling stupidity

H for Hospital, but that would be very obvious. That would mean that the entire city is some kind of sanitarium, and the inhabitants are oblivious to this fact. --Spiraltwist 07:27, 2 January 2008 (PST)

Or H for Heaven or Hell. Or Hellside. --Spiraltwist 09:32, 4 January 2008 (PST)

Completely unexpected explanation, but it makes sense. Is this how he managed to "expand" his mind because his "wasn't big enough"?--Spiraltwist 20:12, 6 February 2008 (PST)

Well, it's definitely one of the changes he's added through grinding. Which also helps explain the The Science Jesus Event. The dude's clearly got some serious, heavy duty body mods. (DO.WANT!!) --M1k3y 01:07, 7 February 2008 (PST)

And consider how MANY plates there must be in the city - that's an incredile amount of information. --Spiraltwist 06:13, 7 February 2008 (PST)

What's got me thinking is that DS says that Stoker and the Mayor "aren't cleared" to access the plates. So...are these plates the Doktor's idea, or have they been around for a long time? If the Dok didn't come up with them, who did, and to what end?--Adrammalech 15:02, 8 February 2008 (PST)